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Brakeing Down Security Podcast

A podcast all about the world of Security, Privacy, Compliance, and Regulatory issues that arise in today's workplace. Co-hosts Bryan Brake, Brian Boettcher, and Amanda Berlin teach concepts that aspiring Information Security Professionals need to know, or refresh the memories of the seasoned veterans.
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Jun 30, 2017

Due to popular demand, we are adding the extra content from last week's show as a standalone podcast.

 

Michael Gough (@hackerHurricane) and Mr. Boettcher (BrakeSec Co-Host, and @boettcherpwned) sit down and discuss the popularity of ransomware as a topic

They discuss what email attachments to block, how to test your own email gateway, and what controls you should implement to help defend against the #petya #notpetya ransomware.

Jun 22, 2017

This week, we discussed Ms. Berlin's recent foray to CircleCityCon, 614con (@614con), and her recent webinars with O'Reilly.

One topic we discussed this week was how to reach out to small businesses about information security. Mr. Boettcher (@boettcherpwned) had just came from a panel discussion about an initiative in Austin, Texas called "MANIFEST", which sought to engage small business owners with #information #security professionals to help them secure their environments.

So we got to discussing how you might go about it in your local hometowns. Many of us live in smaller towns, with numerous small businesses that either don't know to secure their #POS #terminals (for example), or office information not in a file cabinet. They may also just assume their outsourced IT company is doing that job, which could open them up to liability if something occurred. So we discuss ways to reach out, or get involved with your local community.

Secondly, we talk about software vulnerabilities found in the #CWE and the '7 Pernicious Kingdoms' which are the way some people have classified vulnerabilities. We one of the kingdoms, and how it is useful if you want to classify vulns to developers.

Finally, after the show, Mr. Boettcher and Mr. Michael Gough, who has been on the show previously discusses some #ransomware and why it's such a popular topic of discussion. (stay after the end music)

 

Brakesec also announces our "PowerShell for Blue Teamers and Incident Responders" with Mick Douglas (@bettersafetynet). A 5 week course starting with the basics of powershell, and goes into discussion of frameworks using Powershell too assist in assessing your network. It starts on 10 July and run each Monday evening until 1 August 2017. You'll receive a certificate suitable for CPE credit, as well as the videos of the class available to you on our YouTube channel.

To sign up, go to our Patreon Page (http://www.patreon.com/bds_podcast) and sign up at the $20 USD level labeled "Blue Team Powershell - Attendee". If you are looking to just get the videos and follow along in class, pick the $10 USD "Blue Team Powershell - Attendee- Videos Only" Classes will be held on Monday Evenings only for 5 weeks, ending on 1 August.

 

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Jun 14, 2017

Hector Monsegur (@hxmonsegur on Twitter) is a good friend of the show, and we invited him to come on and discuss some of the #OSINT research he's doing to identify servers without using noisy techniques like DNS brute forcing.

 

We also discuss EclinicalWorks and their massive fine for falsifying testing of their EHR system, and implications for that. What happens to customers confidence in the product, and what happens if you're already a customer and realize you were duped by them?

 

We also discuss Hector's involvement with the TV show "Outlaw Tech". Who approached him, why he did it, why it's not CSI:Cyber or "Scorpion" and how it discusses the techniques used by bad guys.

 

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Show notes:

 

going beyond DNS bruteforcing and passively discovering assets from public datasets???

Very interested in hearing about this

Straight OSINT, or what?

Hxm: Over at RSL (Rhino Sec Labs), one of the research projects I’m working on is discovery of assets (subdomains) while minimizing footprint (dns bruteforcing). Datasets include things like:

 

Training gained from internal phishing campaigns

Does it breed internal mis-trust?

Recent campaign findings

Why do it if we know one account is all it takes? Because we know it’s a ‘win’ for security?

 

Outlaw Tech on Science Channel

What’s it about? (let’s talk about the show)

 

http://www.dw.com/en/estonia-buoys-cyber-security-with-worlds-first-data-embassy/a-39168011 - ”Estonia buoys cyber security with world's first data embassy” - interesting

 

https://www.digitalcommerce360.com/2017/05/31/eclinicalworks-will-pay-feds-155-million-settle-false-claims-charges/ -- holy shit

-- Reminds me of the whole emissions scandal from a couple of years back. http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/a29293/vehicle-emissions-testing-scandal-cheating/

 

http://securewv.com/cfp.html

 

 

 

OneLogin/Docusign breaches

OneLogin: https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/06/onelogin-data-breach-compromised-decrypted/

Docusign:  https://www.inc.com/sonya-mann/docusign-hacked-emails.html

http://www.spamfighter.com/News-20916-DocuSign-Data-Hack-Resulted-in-Malware-Ridden-Spam.htm

Crowdfunding to buy shadowbroker exploits ended: https://threatpost.com/crowdfunding-effort-to-buy-shadowbrokers-exploits-shuts-down/126010/

 

China's Cybersecurity Law: https://lawfareblog.com/chinas-cybersecurity-law-takes-effect-what-expect

 

Facial recognition for plane boarding:  http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/31/technology/jetblue-facial-recognition/index.html

 

 

Keybase.io’s Chrome plugin  -- Game changer? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/easy-keybaseio-encryption/bhoocemedffiopognacolpjbnpncdegk/related?hl=en

Jun 6, 2017

 

This week, we invited Ms. Jessy Irwin (@jessysaurusrex) on to discuss the issues Small and medium businesses and startups have with getting good training, training that is effective and what can be done to address these issues.

We also go through several ideas for training subjects that should be addressed by training, and what maybe would be addressed by policy.

 

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Upcoming BrakeSec Podcast training:

Ms. Sunny Wear - Web App Security/OWASP

14 June - 21 June - 28 June at 1900 Eastern (1600 Pacific, 2300 UTC)

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If you want the videos and don’t care about the class, they will be released a week after class is over for free.

 

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Jay Beale’s Class “aikido on the command line: hardening and containment”

JULY 22-23 & JULY 24-25    AT BlackHat 2017

https://www.blackhat.com/us-17/training/aikido-on-the-command-line-linux-hardening-and-containment.html

 

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Show Notes:

 

http://www.darkreading.com/endpoint/cybersecurity-training-nonexistent-at-one-third-of-smbs-/d/d-id/1328766

I don’t trust articles written with a survey created by a company that is touting their new education track at the bottom of the article. -- brbr

 

https://twitter.com/jessysaurusrex/status/859123589123121152

“So sick of the tired narrative that sec awareness is just about phishing when there are ~10 basic skills we need to be educating people on”

What are the ~10 things?

First off, most corporate security training misses the incentive mark by a mile. If training were refocused in a way that showed the incentives to improving personal safety, we might get somewhere. Teaching people how to take care of themselves first works-- those habits carry over into their work life, not usually the other way around.

 

  1. Passwords
  2. Multifactor authentication
  3. Device encryption
    1. Ad blocking
    2. Browser hardening via extension/plugin
  4. Safe browsing (this breaks into a few different topics)
    1. Phishing doesn't just happen via email anymore: social media inboxes, text message inboxes, messaging apps, etc.
    2. Most users won't come to social engineering defenses on their own-- important to educate and give alternatives that encourage them to confirm information out of band or navigate to a site in their browser
  5. Social engineering (this breaks into a few different topics)
  6. Segmentation/compartmentalizing data + communications
  7. Secure storage(local vs cloud data)
  8. Media storage safety (thumbdrives! Charge-only cables for mobile devices!)
    1. Google Apps + Slack allow for OAuth; most people set it and forget it, don't review what apps can act on their behalf until it's too late
  9. Regularly reviewing permissions granted to apps through oAuth
  10. Backups

 

http://www.zdnet.com/article/sans-security-awareness-study-reveals-technical-communication-skills-and-proper-resourcing-critical/

The report goes onto say that security awareness professionals with more technical backgrounds are more keen to recognizing behaviors that might bring risk, however, at times communications training is critical given that human interaction soft skills make changing risky employee behavior. They know what behaviors are the most effective in managing those risks. Often however, the challenge is that these same individuals often lack the skills or training to effectively communicate those risks and engage employees in a manner that effectively changes behavior.”  summed up our entire industry in this paragraph --brbr

  

https://securingthehuman.sans.org/resources/security-awareness-report-2017

^^^^ saw this on Twitter yesterday -brbr

 

Key takeaways:

 

The study recommends the following for addressing communications:

 

  • Communicate to leadership monthly about your security awareness program -- in a way that business leaders will value.
  • Find a strong champion within leadership, and ask them to help relay the program value to other leaders, or assist with message crafting.
  • Partner with those in the org that you've found to appreciate and adhere to security awareness inputs, especially those who can help partner on better communications.
  • Take communications training; they can be easily developed with the right focus.
  • Align with human resources to ensure an awareness program is tied into company culture.
  • Keep an eye on your audience, as it grows and shift, and recognize that the same message that works for developers may not be effective for marketing, and vice versa. A one-size-fits-all communications approach can be limiting. 

 

You writing a book?

 

I've been working on a book about security that's focused on education and communication. We do such a horrible job at this-- we don't do very much that helps the average person or our non-technical, non-expert colleagues have a chance at being successful online. Our terms are too technical, our framing is unbelievably negative and toxic, and the lack of empathy for the people at the other end of the computer is absolutely astounding. It is entirely fixable, but we all have to stop contradicting one another and really start working together. :)

 

You make it sound so bleak and self-destructive :|

I would like to hope that we can get better.

 

Oh yea, the echo chamber, “who has the right answer?” no one, we all just have pieces...

Yes! And sometimes the right answer changes very, very quickly! It's less about the silver bullet answer and more about what we’re defending from and hoping to accomplish.

 

Are SMBs the issue?

Are they more insecure than bigger companies?

Or do bigger companies get more media coverage?

 

Are bigger companies any better at training employees?

Or are they better at ‘checking’ the box?

 

If we take the statement ‘paid for security training sucks’ as a given, what do we do about it?

What trainings should we be giving?

  

And what training should actually be policy driven? (make it a requirement to follow)

Clean desk

Password manager

Coding practices

Acceptable use

Device encyption

2FA/MFA

 

What training do infosec people need? How important are the soft skills to help with communicating?

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